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The result was: '''promoted''' by [[User:Yoninah|Yoninah]] ([[User talk:Yoninah|talk]]) 23:03, 6 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
 
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* ... that '''[[William Verbeck]]''' ''(pictured)'', who served as [[Adjutant General of New York|Adjutant General]] of the [[New York State Division of Military and Naval Affairs|New York National Guard]], was born in [[Nagasaki]], Japan, to Dutch missionaries? <small>{{Cite news|url=https://www.nytimes.com/1930/08/25/archives/william-verbeck-educator-is-dead-general-and-former-commander-of.html|title=William Verbeck, Educator, is Dead; General and Former Commander of New York National Guard, Succumbs at 69. Headed Manlius School - In 1927 He Was Made Commander of Crown of Italy -- Received Citizenship by Legislative Act | date=1930-08-25 | work=The New York Times  |access-date=2019-11-24  |language=en-US | issn=0362-4331 }}</small>
 
* ... that '''[[William Verbeck]]''' ''(pictured)'', who served as [[Adjutant General of New York|Adjutant General]] of the [[New York State Division of Military and Naval Affairs|New York National Guard]], was born in [[Nagasaki]], Japan, to Dutch missionaries? <small>{{Cite news|url=https://www.nytimes.com/1930/08/25/archives/william-verbeck-educator-is-dead-general-and-former-commander-of.html|title=William Verbeck, Educator, is Dead; General and Former Commander of New York National Guard, Succumbs at 69. Headed Manlius School - In 1927 He Was Made Commander of Crown of Italy -- Received Citizenship by Legislative Act | date=1930-08-25 | work=The New York Times  |access-date=2019-11-24  |language=en-US | issn=0362-4331 }}</small>
 
:* ''Reviewed'': [[Template:Did you know nominations/Sara Wesslin|Sara Wesslin]]
 
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<small>Created by [[User:Eddie891|Eddie891]] ([[User talk:Eddie891|talk]]) and [[User:Evrik|Evrik]] ([[User talk:Evrik|talk]]). Nominated by [[User:Evrik|Evrik]] ([[User talk:Evrik|talk]]) at 04:20, 25 November 2019 (UTC).</small>
 
<small>Created by [[User:Eddie891|Eddie891]] ([[User talk:Eddie891|talk]]) and [[User:Evrik|Evrik]] ([[User talk:Evrik|talk]]). Nominated by [[User:Evrik|Evrik]] ([[User talk:Evrik|talk]]) at 04:20, 25 November 2019 (UTC).</small>
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:* [[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] Date, size, refs, neutrality, copyvio spotcheck, etc. all GTG, the only issue is the hook, which focuses on his parents/birth, not his achievements. Can we get something about him that is more interesting that saying he was born to parents from Foo1 and Foo2 countries, which is essentially a boring trivia (no disrespect)? --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]&#124;[[User talk:Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span>]]</sub> 05:46, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
 
:* [[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] Date, size, refs, neutrality, copyvio spotcheck, etc. all GTG, the only issue is the hook, which focuses on his parents/birth, not his achievements. Can we get something about him that is more interesting that saying he was born to parents from Foo1 and Foo2 countries, which is essentially a boring trivia (no disrespect)? --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]&#124;[[User talk:Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span>]]</sub> 05:46, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
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*{{ping|Yoninah}} I added cites for both - though you have to read through all of the dissertation I added as a reference to piece together the number. --[[User:evrik|evrik]]&nbsp;<sup>([[User talk:evrik|talk]])</sup> 22:56, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
 
*{{ping|Yoninah}} I added cites for both - though you have to read through all of the dissertation I added as a reference to piece together the number. --[[User:evrik|evrik]]&nbsp;<sup>([[User talk:evrik|talk]])</sup> 22:56, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
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Latest revision as of 23:03, 6 January 2020

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 23:03, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

William Verbeck

William Verbeck in 1911
William Verbeck in 1911
  • ... that William Verbeck (pictured), who served as Adjutant General of the New York National Guard, was born in Nagasaki, Japan, to Dutch missionaries? "William Verbeck, Educator, is Dead; General and Former Commander of New York National Guard, Succumbs at 69. Headed Manlius School - In 1927 He Was Made Commander of Crown of Italy -- Received Citizenship by Legislative Act". The New York Times. 1930-08-25. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2019-11-24.

Created by Eddie891 (talk) and Evrik (talk). Nominated by Evrik (talk) at 04:20, 25 November 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Date, size, refs, neutrality, copyvio spotcheck, etc. all GTG, the only issue is the hook, which focuses on his parents/birth, not his achievements. Can we get something about him that is more interesting that saying he was born to parents from Foo1 and Foo2 countries, which is essentially a boring trivia (no disrespect)? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:46, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svgTemplate:Ping I came by to promote this, but is a resume-style hook better than the original? Anyway, everything I need to know about him is in the hook, so no need to click on it. Better hook wording is needed here. Yoninah (talk) 21:54, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
  • I liked the original hook. --evrik (talk) 04:22, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Me too. Striking the ALT. Yoninah (talk) 12:34, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
I know that there's some push against "person A from country B was born in country X" hooks, but an American being born in Nagasaki during that timeframe sounds fairly unusual. If the year of birth could be added to the hook then that might help raise hook interest. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:19, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg I suggest we leave the original hook alone. Restoring tick from Piotrus' review. Yoninah (talk) 12:35, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, and moved all the uncontroversial cites out of the lead. The page seems very skimpy on detail. There is no cite for his death date, or for his sibling relationship. Yoninah (talk) 22:22, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

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  • Template:Ping I added cites for both - though you have to read through all of the dissertation I added as a reference to piece together the number. --evrik (talk) 22:56, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Thank you. Restoring tick. Yoninah (talk) 23:02, 6 January 2020 (UTC)