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Another Holocaust
... that Menachem Begin claimed that he had prevented another Holocaust by bombing an Iraqi nuclear reactor?ALT1:... that Mike Pence said that "The Iranian regime openly advocates another Holocaust"?ALT2:... that Israeli president Reuven Rivlin opposes the political invocation of another Holocaust, calling it "fundamentally wrong" and "dangerous"?
Converted from a redirect by Buidhe (talk). Self-nominated at 01:29, 8 May 2020 (UTC).
Template:Ping New enough, long enough, QPQ done, copyvio 26.5%, interesting hooks, but here are my concerns:
- Ref 15 should cite The Times of Israel instead of www.timesofisrael.com.
- ALT1 has WP:NPOV issues. For the article to be neutral, you should also explain why Pence made these accusations instead of just a one-sentence quote.
- I'd go with ALT0, but it needs some work. I'd propose it as ALT0a: ... that Israeli prime minister Menachem Begin claimed that he had prevented another Holocaust by bombing an Iraqi nuclear reactor? I'd also suggest adding a picture of Begin to the article and this proposal.
- Not related to DYK, but the photo of Bridget Loves Bernie doesn't belong in the article because it isn't mentioned in the prose and doesn't enhance the reader's understanding.
- Let me know with a ping when you've addressed these concerns. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 19:20, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Did you know/Citation says nothing about such minor details in citations.
- Fine, that's why I provided 3 hooks.
- Why did you strike ALT0? WP:DYKHOOK does not require links other than the one to the featured article. 3 links in one hooks is too many imo.
- I appreciate constructive suggestions, but please keep them separate from comments that are related to the DYK criteria and eligibility of the article and hook. buidhe 21:04, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
- Template:Ping The point was that you did not introduce who Menachem Begin was, so that hook has no context. Again, neutrality issues still haven't been addressed; that pertains to the article, not just the hooks. Also, I perceived the incorrect citation as bordering a bare URL, my mistake. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 21:25, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
- I fail to see how the absense of context could be a WP:NPOV issue, which "means representing fairly, proportionately, and, as far as possible, without editorial bias, all the significant views that have been published by reliable sources on a topic." Nevertheless, I've added some. I also do not see how what Begin looks like would be remotely relevant to the article or the hook. I wouldn't object to ALT0a with minor modifications: "... that Israeli prime minister Menachem Begin said that he had prevented another Holocaust by bombing an Iraqi nuclear reactor?" but I also do not see anything wrong with the original hook. buidhe 21:37, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
- Template:Ping The point was that you did not introduce who Menachem Begin was, so that hook has no context. Again, neutrality issues still haven't been addressed; that pertains to the article, not just the hooks. Also, I perceived the incorrect citation as bordering a bare URL, my mistake. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 21:25, 30 May 2020 (UTC)