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Revision as of 20:40, 4 July 2013 by imported>I JethroBT (rearranging due to parenthetical issues)
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Davis Theater
- ... that in 1979, film critic Gene Siskel supported the Davis Theater (pictured) to show first runs?
- ALT1:... that the Davis Theater (pictured) is one of the few operating neighborhood movie theaters in Chicago?
- ALT2:... that in 1979, film critic Gene Siskel supported a plan (that was ultimately unsuccessful) to show first runs at the Davis Theater (pictured)?
- Reviewed: Ridiculous Fishing
- Comment: Article created in my userspace on June 29; moved to mainspace June 30th.
Created by I Jethrobot (talk). Self nominated at 21:42, 30 June 2013 (UTC).
The article is long enough, there are no obvious copyright violations, and the article was created on 29 June. I like the Gene Siskel hook better than the first one. Great article.--Taiping Tulip (talk) 00:20, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
- Then we'll make it that one. I actually like it a bit better, too. I, Jethrobot drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 02:31, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
There are discrepancies between the source used for the Siskel hook and both the hook and article. The source says "The revival plan, despite backing by [...] Siskel, was not profitable": this does not specify financial support/backing; since Siskel was an influential critic, he could conceivably have used his bully pulpit as film reviewer for the Tribune. There are other problems: the article says the plan included the renovation into a three-screen facility; the source says that the conversion to triplex occurred in 1986, long after the revival plan had failed and the theater had resumed being a second-run house. The current ALT1 hook is supported, but only if you say "neighborhood movie theaters"; the source specifies "movie", and there are other types of neighborhood theaters in the city. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:35, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what kind of backing could have occurred from Siskel's column to help the theater show first runs, but I understand the concern regarding original research. I can't find sources explaining this further. This hook can be changed to simply "support". Also, there was a seven-year gap between the 1979 failure and the triplex addition in 1986. It's not explained where the funding came for this addition, but it's possible there was a change of ownership or some donation. In any case, it's not necessarily problematic. The change to the second hook is also noted, and has been changed. I, Jethrobot drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 17:44, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
- I'm fine with the Siskel hook changing to just say "support", though the article needs to follow suit, and the hook itself is oddly worded: "supported ... to show first runs" doesn't make logical sense. Maybe "supported a plan", though that doesn't make it clear that the theater actually made the transition for a few months, though it was ultimately not a success and the theater reverted back to second-run films. Rather than change the hook further, could you propose a new ALT2 with revised Siskel wording? It's hard to follow the sequence of hook improvements unless a new ALT is given for each. Thanks. (No need to ping my talk page again; I watchlist all DYK templates that I comment on.) BlueMoonset (talk) 19:06, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
- Article has been changed accordingly. I, Jethrobot drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 20:14, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
- I'm fine with the Siskel hook changing to just say "support", though the article needs to follow suit, and the hook itself is oddly worded: "supported ... to show first runs" doesn't make logical sense. Maybe "supported a plan", though that doesn't make it clear that the theater actually made the transition for a few months, though it was ultimately not a success and the theater reverted back to second-run films. Rather than change the hook further, could you propose a new ALT2 with revised Siskel wording? It's hard to follow the sequence of hook improvements unless a new ALT is given for each. Thanks. (No need to ping my talk page again; I watchlist all DYK templates that I comment on.) BlueMoonset (talk) 19:06, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what kind of backing could have occurred from Siskel's column to help the theater show first runs, but I understand the concern regarding original research. I can't find sources explaining this further. This hook can be changed to simply "support". Also, there was a seven-year gap between the 1979 failure and the triplex addition in 1986. It's not explained where the funding came for this addition, but it's possible there was a change of ownership or some donation. In any case, it's not necessarily problematic. The change to the second hook is also noted, and has been changed. I, Jethrobot drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 17:44, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
