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Infernal machine (weapon)
- ... that the infernal machine was a 25-barrel gun used in the failed assassination of King Louis Philippe I of France in 1835 (pictured)? Source: Giuseppe Marco Fieschi also devised an infernal machine of his own invention for his attempt on King Louis-Philippe I in 1835
- ALT1:... that the infernal machine, a volley gun, failed to assassinate King Louis Philippe I of France in 1835 (pictured)? Source: Giuseppe Marco Fieschi also devised an infernal machine of his own invention for his attempt on King Louis-Philippe I in 1835
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Salvatore Pais
- Comment: Open to other hooks.
Created by ~riley (talk). Self-nominated at 02:42, 26 December 2019 (UTC).
Hi ~riley. This article is not currently eligible. The majority of the "Useage" section is copied directly from old content at Giuseppe Marco Fieschi and the new content is fewer than 1,500 characters. Per the DYK rules the new article "may not consist of text spun off from a pre-existing article". I think if more than 1,500 characters of new content can be added it will be eligible again though - Dumelow (talk) 11:38, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
- Template:U, thanks for noting that. The article is now at 1,585 characters of new content after some additions. I will be continuing to expand it as I have found some more interesting content, however, it is eligible for now. ~riley (talk) 20:33, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, ~riley, Dumelow, when pre-existing content is copied into a new article, the rule is that it needs to be expanded 5x, not that there needs to be 1500 prose characters in addition to any copied material. Per WP:DYKSG#A5, Template:Tq In this case, 1093 prose characters have been copied from Giuseppe Marco Fieschi, which means the resulting article must be at least 5465 prose characters; at the moment it is just under half that, at 2686 prose characters. A significant further expansion will be needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:26, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- I have removed the copied text so that WP:DYKSG#A5 no longer applies. I will be working on rewriting and adding back in the pertinent information (i.e. weapon effectiveness, barrels exploding, misfiring, etc), otherwise, {{Main}} serves its purpose. As it stands, article is at 1500 prose characters and eligible for DYK. ~riley (talk) 00:56, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for clarifying the rules BlueMoonset . The article now seems to satisfy the requirements as there is no copied content. ~riley, I have a query with regards executedtoday.com, what makes this source reliable? It describes itself as a blog, is the author a known expert? - Dumelow (talk) 08:59, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- Template:U: Although the information was correct, it is indeed not a reliable source. I have removed the source, replaced it with a reliable source, and expanded the sentence to be more detailed while at it. ~riley (talk) 09:23, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for clarifying the rules BlueMoonset . The article now seems to satisfy the requirements as there is no copied content. ~riley, I have a query with regards executedtoday.com, what makes this source reliable? It describes itself as a blog, is the author a known expert? - Dumelow (talk) 08:59, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
Thanks ~riley, everything now resolved. Hook is interesting, no overl; close paraphrasing found; image is freely lincensed (the caption could do with trimming I think); QPQ has been done - Dumelow (talk) 10:45, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
This is an unusual situation, where material that had been copied from another article was removed and then reinserted in paraphrased form. I'd like to check with Nikkimaria to see whether there are any DYK issues with this. I would also like to recommend that these updated sections be copyedited: the tense changes from past to present and back in a problematic manner, and there are other grammatical issues as well. These should be addressed before the article is approved to run on the main page. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:09, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
