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Magnificat and Nunc dimittis (Gloucester)
... that Herbert Howells composed one of 20 settings of Magnificat and Nunc dimittis for Gloucester Catredral (choir pictured) where he had sung as a boy?Source: [1] "...and he could have known none better than Gloucester Cathedral where as a boy he had been an articled pupil of Sir Herbert Brewer"
- Reviewed: Clare Wheatley
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 12:00, 1 December 2017 (UTC).
- Except that "articled pupil" isn't the same as "chorister", so the hook is factually incorrect. BencherliteTalk 21:54, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
- (Sorry, its hard for me to imagine music studies without singing.) Can we say this?
- ALT1:
... that Herbert Howells composed one of 20 settings of Magnificat and Nunc dimittis for Gloucester Catredral (choir pictured) where he had studied with Herbert Brewer as a boy?--Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:45, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
New enough, long enough, hook is fine, Earwig shows no sign of copyvio - AGF on offline sources, neutral, I would like a source for the "Text" section, but that is not essential. Good to go. Aymatth2 (talk) 22:05, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
- Template:U The hook is not fine – it has an obvious typo and "one of 20" doesn't comply with MOS:NUMNOTES. Most problematically, it also implies that there are twenty settings of the Mag and Nunc for Gloucester Cathedral. So it needs some rewording
- ALT2: ... that Herbert Howells composed the Magnificat and Nunc dimittis for Gloucester Cathedral (choir pictured) after learning the organ there as a boy with Herbert Brewer?
- How about that? BencherliteTalk 10:57, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for the idea, - I was not happy with the wording myself. Thank you also for help with the article. I don't think that it is a surprise that he composed after he learned. How is this?
- ALT3: ... that Herbert Howells composed the Magnificat and Nunc dimittis for Gloucester Cathedral for the church (choir pictured) where he had learned the organ with Herbert Brewer as a boy? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:11, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
- That solves the 1 of twenty problem and all those settings for the catredral, but I find "learned the organ" awkward. I had an uncle who learned a very unusual set of church bells. He (and only he) understood how they worked and could repair them.
- My question is whether he learned to repair the organ, or to tune it, or just learned how it worked, or what? Aymatth2 (talk) 12:11, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
- I am not the right person to know, with my limited English. When we say the equivalent in German (Er lernte Orgel bei XYZ.), everybody would know that "playing" is meant. I am not familiar enough though if an "articled pupil" - I term I don't know, and know even less now that it was delinked - learns more than playing, - my impression was that it was also theory etc. All these nuances, however, don't play a role in the hook, but should just confirm that he knew the acoustics of the place he wrote for from a formative period in his life on. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:18, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
