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Schlössle Hotel

Schlössle Hotel
Schlössle Hotel

Created by Yakikaki (talk). Self-nominated at 15:04, 8 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg The article is long enough, was nominated within the time frame of creation, and has no copy-vios or glaring prose issues. However, it needs citations to third-party sources. The sources given are affiliated with the hotel, and while they may be used, additional, significant coverage from outside perspectives needs to be supplied as well. I found the following four sources which provide brief coverage of the hotel:[1], [2], [3], and [4]. However, I had trouble finding sources that give significant, comprehensive coverage. If sources providing significant coverage cannot be found, I will have to fail this article, and it may even end up being deleted.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 19:06, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Thank you for your constructive and dedicated review, 3family6! I was slightly reluctant myself to create this article, but this is how I reasoned: it's for starters a member of the Leading Hotels of the World group, and I fail to see why this particular hotel would be considered an insignificant topic for Wikipedia. What makes it less significant than other hotels, which are covered in articles (both members of this group and not)? Indeed, I would argue that since it's the only member of the group in Estonia, that in itself makes it significant enough. Clearly, it is not your average motel. Also, I frankly don't see the problem with the sources. There is no reason to doubt the facts stated in them. My reasoning has been that the fact that the information is provided by the owner is in this case not a problem as long as the article is written in a neutral style and not as an advertisement. Similarly, I've written several articles about medieval Swedish churches with information supplied by the Church of Sweden without anyone ever doubting the significance of the articles. Finally, the building itself is a registered national monument of Estonia, a fact that I'd be happy to incorporate into the article (source: https://register.muinas.ee/public.php?menuID=en_monument&action=view&id=3059). I hope this can convince you to let the article pass and stay on Wikipedia! Best regards, Yakikaki (talk) 16:32, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Template:U The sources in the article are good quality. My critique is not that they are unacceptable as sources, but that because they are affiliated with the subject they cannot be used to support the notability of the subject. Notability is based on mention and discussion by third-party reliable sources. That national monument registry is a good find - that is something that will help toward establishing notability. I tried another Google Search, this time with "Hotel Schlossle" instead of "Schlössle Hotel", and I found three more sources, at least one of which deals with the hotel extensively: [5], [6], and [7]. If you work these sources, along with the historic registry entry and some of the sources that I gave in my previous response, into the article, it should satisfy notability concerns.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 14:34, 6 October 2015 (UTC)