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Leal Douglas
- ... that in The Beetle (1919), Leal Douglas (pictured) played an Egyptian princess who can transform herself into a man or a beetle?
Source: Jonathan Rigby, English Gothic: A Century of Horror Cinema (Reynolds & Hearn, 2004), p. 16- ALT1:... that Jonathan Rigby has called the character played by Leal Douglas (pictured) in The Beetle “the polymorphous title role”?
Source: same as main hook
- ALT1:... that Jonathan Rigby has called the character played by Leal Douglas (pictured) in The Beetle “the polymorphous title role”?
- Reviewed: Heinz Imdahl
Created/expanded by Moonraker (talk). Self-nominated at 02:20, 15 April 2020 (UTC).
New enough, long enough, and thoroughly sourced. Earwig found no copyvio. QPQ done. Offline sources accepted per WP:AGF. Hook properly sourced, within rules; I find the main hook much more interesting than ALT1. Image looks ok at low sizes and PD claims appear valid. Good to go. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:31, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi, I came by to promote this, but just telling the plotline does not satisfy Rule C6. And ALT1 is not as interesting. Yoninah (talk) 01:24, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
- Oops, forgot that rule, sorry. Yes, I agree. We need a hook that is hooky and relates to the real world. —David Eppstein (talk) 04:09, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
- Template:U, I agree ALT1 is less interesting than the main hook, but that would not be difficult. The main hook is surely okay. “C6: If the subject is a work of fiction or a fictional character, the hook must involve the real world in some way.” But the subject is Leal Douglas, who is neither of those things, she was a real person. Even if the subject had been The Beetle, which it isn’t, the real world would still be involved, because Leal Douglas is a real person playing a role in the filming of a work of fiction. So C6 is not relevant to this hook, which is the strongest one there is. Moonraker (talk) 08:49, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
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- Template:U, You have this wrong, because the subject is not a film, it is a performer. DYK has run many hooks of this kind. Can you quote any DYK rule that applies here? C6 clearly does not. Moonraker (talk) 14:14, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that Leal Douglas was once called perhaps the most beautiful vampire on the English screen? —valereee (talk) 11:34, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
- Template:U, thank you for the effort, and I don’t see any problem with that, though I still prefer the original hook, which is within the rules. Moonraker (talk) 14:19, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
GTG with ALT2. —David Eppstein (talk) 16:48, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
- Template:U, that’s fine, but you are good at logical thinking, will you please think about joining me in standing up to the absurdity here? Performers perform, mostly in works of fiction. Do you really agree that hooks about their performances in works of fiction are ruled out by some unidentified DYK rule? Clearly C6 does not apply. I asked Template:U above to find a rule that does, and no answer yet. Moonraker (talk) 00:03, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
- Template:U, thank you for the effort, and I don’t see any problem with that, though I still prefer the original hook, which is within the rules. Moonraker (talk) 14:19, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
