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The Lost Tribe (1949 film)
- ... that The Lost Tribe, featuring gorillas fighting robbers in Africa, was directed by William Berke?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/John Ratcliff
- Comment: Preferable for it to appear on the same day as Template:Did you know nominations/The Lost Tribe (1985 film). Thanks.
Created by Bonkers The Clown (talk). Self nominated at 13:57, 2 September 2013 (UTC).
- Jungle Jim's pet gorilla appears heavily in the film, and it and its jungle primate friends fightng against the temple looters. (And plot is left uncited per WP:DYKSG.) Thanks. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 08:59, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
- That being the case, it should have received coverage in media right? —Vensatry (Ping me) 12:59, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
- The book mentions the gorilla fight, for one, but I don't see a need to cite. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 13:03, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
- Hook must be neutral, interesting enough and verifiable. Above all it must be present in the article. What's so special about a film being directed by William Berke? —Vensatry (Ping me) 14:07, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
- Well, gorillas fighting robbers is interesting, and I have to add something non-fictional to the hook. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 14:32, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
- I should note that the hook doesn't always have to contain something non-fictional: see the succesful Template:Did you know nominations/I Was a Zombie for the F.B.I.. Taylor Trescott - my talk + my edits 18:52, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
- Hmm, but WP:DYK states, "If the subject is a work of fiction or a fictional character, the hook must involve the real world in some way." ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 14:25, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
- The book mentions the gorilla fight, for one, but I don't see a need to cite. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 13:03, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
- That being the case, it should have received coverage in media right? —Vensatry (Ping me) 12:59, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
- That "I Was a Zombie" hook should not have been approved, promoted, or run: that it was is unfortunate, as it's a clear violation of the DYK rules. If any of you spot one like that in the future, please flag it as invalid. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:34, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
- Well, I learned something today, heh. Taylor Trescott - my talk + my edits 20:07, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
As was pointed out in another plot-based hook, if you use plot elements in a hook, they have to be cited, either within the plot itself, or in another section of the article. (Vensatry also notes this here.) This still needs to be done; the hook is not currently adequately supported by DYK standards. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:33, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
- Would this source work? It's a Hal Erickson plot summary that contains the line "Our hero summons forth an army of gorillas to fight off the bad guys." [1] Taylor Trescott - my talk + my edits 20:13, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
- It would be nice to have the original Harrison AllRovi entry, but so far as I know the Times imprimatur means it's reliable enough, and wording there seems to cover the gorillas and people scheming to steal the treasure. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:48, 13 October 2013 (UTC)