Template:Did you know nominations/Shooting of Jamarion Robinson

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 09:08, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Shooting of Jamarion Robinson

Created by BarrelProof (talk). Self-nominated at 16:44, 31 May 2020 (UTC).

  • Comment: I personally think ALT1 is more interesting and is adequately supported by sources, but some people might find it inflammatory. There are also other aspects that could alternatively be included as the hook, such as the lack of use of body cameras, the nearly three-minute duration of the shooting, and the flash-bang grenade. —BarrelProof (talk) 02:24, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

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  • Thank you for the helpful review. It may take me some time to address all points adequately. I believe I've taken care of the manner of listing the police departments. About the italics, I'm not sure whether you're just suggesting to use "{{em|never}}" instead of " ''never'' " or to remove the italics altogether. MOS:EMPHASIS seems to allow emphasis, but if the emphasis is not appropriate, it is easily removed. —BarrelProof (talk) 22:39, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
    • Huh, this is my mistake. I was suggesting removal because I thought it was against MOS but apparently not. I would still recommend removal because I don't think it's necessary and I think it brings an emotive tone to the sentence which goes against NPOV, but use Template:T if you feel strongly on keeping it. — Bilorv (Black Lives Matter) 08:38, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
  • At this point I believe I have resolved all of the identified problems. I added source citations for each entry in the list of highlighted issues in the lead section and provided archive links for the three sources that were difficult to access. One source for the treatment of the body and the scene is in the WMAZ-TV article: "The family questions why, after so many bullets fired, police still felt the need to handcuff Robinson behind his back and drag him from the second floor landing to the living room. Robinson was also found by the medical examiner, wearing an oxygen re-breathing mask." The Barnes Rolling Out article of August 15, 2016, describes the scene at the top of the stairs and the blood trail down the stairs to the living room, "McCall was methodical as he observed a blood trail going down the stairs as if Jamarion’s body was dragged down the steps after being shot. At the top of the stairwell, there was a large pool of blood soaking into the carpet.". I was using "frustrate" in the sense of being blocked from progress rather than in the emotional sense. I have rephrased that aspect and removed the {{em}} use that we discussed. The sourcing seems unquestionable for the ALT0 hook, so perhaps we should just use that. —BarrelProof (talk) 21:31, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
    • Template:Ping very sorry about having not replied for weeks—I was in a busy period in real life and it somehow passed me by on my watchlist. I'm satisfied that everything is fully addressed, particularly the paraphrasing issues and questions I had over verifiability in the sources I couldn't read. I think we're agreed that ALT0 is the safest hook to use, so 16px ALT0 approved. — Bilorv (talk) 19:06, 5 July 2020 (UTC)