Template:Did you know nominations/City Developments Limited
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- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 21:39, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
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City Developments Limited
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that City Developments Limited first introduced the usage of show houses in Asia in 1965, giving prospective property buyers a taste of soon-to-be developed properties?Source: Window shopping for homes - The Straits Times, 12 December 1965 via NewspaperSG archives- ALT1 ...
that City Developments Limited first introduced the usage of show houses in Asia in 1965?Source: Window shopping for homes - The Straits Times, 12 December 1965 via NewspaperSG archives
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- Comment: Reviewer to take note, the article was AfD twice due to copyvio reasons. This version was first created by a paid COI contributor, Template:U. However, myself (Robertsky, with no COI with City Developments Limited) and Template:U have took on to expand the draft, and reviewing/editing/removing the COI contributions in the process.
Moved to mainspace by Robertsky (talk) and TheGreatSG'rean (talk). Nominated by Robertsky (talk) at 07:46, 7 June 2020 (UTC).
Hello, I am interesting in reviewing this nomination. How would the nominators feel about a shorter ALT that omitted the wording after 1965? Flibirigit (talk) 03:48, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
- Template:Re I am OK with a shorter ALT as proposed. – robertsky (talk) 05:26, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
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- Template:Re will get around addressing the issues this weekend. – robertsky (talk) 19:08, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- Template:Ping I see you have done some work on the article. Do you plan any more updates? Is it okay to go ahead with the review? Flibirigit (talk) 08:47, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- Template:Re I am still updating the notable projects section, sourcing for references, while uncovering additional details. This should be done by the weekend if I am not distracted. Template:Ping, would you like to assist on adding some sources as well? As for the hook, the crux would be the phrase 'believed to be'. Given that it had happened in 1965, finding printed sources from other countries to back the claim of being the first may be tedious. As such, I think the hook can be modified further, ALT2
"... that City Developments Limited was one of the first to introduce the usage of show houses in Asia in 1965?Source: Window shopping for homes - The Straits Times, 12 December 1965 via NewspaperSG archives" or similar to effect an approximation to the claim instead? – robertsky (talk) 11:57, 23 July 2020 (UTC)- Okay, we can work with the revised hook. Please comment here when the other items are ready. Flibirigit (talk) 15:20, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- Template:Re paraphrasing issue should be resolved as well. I am done putting up the references for the notable projects. You can continue with your review. Thanks! – robertsky (talk) 01:03, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
Template:Ping, thank you for the many improvements. The nomination now meets DYK criteria for sourcing, neutrality and paraphrasing. My only concern is the wording in ALT2 that says "was one of the first". While I understand that is a logical conclusion, it could be questioned. Is it possible to propose an ALT3 using the word "believed"? Flibirigit (talk) 06:35, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Template:Re Yes, I am agreeable to the proposal. ALT3a "... that City Developments Limited is believed to be the first to introduce the usage of show houses in Asia in 1965? Source: Window shopping for homes - The Straits Times, 12 December 1965 via NewspaperSG archives" ALT3b "... that City Developments Limited is believed to be one of the first to introduce the usage of show houses in Asia in 1965? Source: Window shopping for homes - The Straits Times, 12 December 1965 via NewspaperSG archives"– robertsky (talk) 08:42, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Template:Re paraphrasing issue should be resolved as well. I am done putting up the references for the notable projects. You can continue with your review. Thanks! – robertsky (talk) 01:03, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Okay, we can work with the revised hook. Please comment here when the other items are ready. Flibirigit (talk) 15:20, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- Template:Re I am still updating the notable projects section, sourcing for references, while uncovering additional details. This should be done by the weekend if I am not distracted. Template:Ping, would you like to assist on adding some sources as well? As for the hook, the crux would be the phrase 'believed to be'. Given that it had happened in 1965, finding printed sources from other countries to back the claim of being the first may be tedious. As such, I think the hook can be modified further, ALT2
- Template:Ping I see you have done some work on the article. Do you plan any more updates? Is it okay to go ahead with the review? Flibirigit (talk) 08:47, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
Approving ALT3a and ALT3b. Both hooks are properly cited, mentioned inline and verified with the newspaper source. Article adheres to all other DYK criteria. Flibirigit (talk) 09:15, 24 July 2020 (UTC)