Template:Did you know nominations/FBI v. Apple

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Jolly Ω Janner 08:11, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

FBI v. Apple

  • Comment: Hook could be better.

Created by ArnoldReinhold (talk). Nominated by BlueStove (talk) at 21:37, 27 February 2016 (UTC).

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That new hook will work. It is well cited, short enough, and more interesting than your present hook. If you will offer that hook as ALT1, complete with question mark at the end, I will approve it. Otherwise, if I place it as ALT1, someone else will have to review it. So say the rules.Georgejdorner (talk) 17:47, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
I did so, I hope correctly. I added "in the FBI v. Apple controversy," to have a link to the article. That brings it to 168 characters without markup. Let me know if that is a problem.--agr (talk) 18:40, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg The proposed ALT1 above is an acceptable length and cited; it is good to go. However, trimming it will not only reduce its length, but increase its mystery, and thus its reader appeal. You don't want to explain everything in a hook. Forget Brooklyn; it's irrelevant. And Apple is mentioned in the suit name. So you might try, "... that a federal judge has ruled in FBI v. Apple that the 1789 All Writs Act cannot compel unlocking a drug dealer’s iPhone." Only 135 characters in edit view, and it makes the reader wonder about the means of compulsion.Georgejdorner (talk) 19:35, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
Mystery is good, but I don't want to mislead. It's the case in California that has gotten the most attention. The case in Brooklyn is a parallel case that may serve as precedent, but it differs from the main case, so I think the word Brooklyn is important, lest readers think the main case is over. The overall story is still in the headlines, so we should get enough attention.--agr (talk) 00:09, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg That's a fair call. Overlength hook struck. This article GTG with approved hook.Georgejdorner (talk) 18:45, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
Alternate hook is fine. I've wiki-linked the relevant text.BlueStove (talk) 01:11, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
I'd lose the link to compel; that article is substandard. Maybe link iPhone.--agr (talk) 13:16, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
The compel article is lousy, but it's still better than nothing for the layperson.BlueStove (talk) 18:03, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
I changed ALT1 to reflect the new article title "FBI–Apple encryption dispute". I also edited the compel article to make it a little less embarrassing.--agr (talk) 14:55, 4 March 2016 (UTC)